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    <title>[techies] Re: cxml Punchout Application - https request/response </title>
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Hello Karen,&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don't really know of any good documents custom 10g application. &amp;#160;Only information on Web Services/SOA in iAS 11g and SOA Gateway in Oracle EBS r12. &amp;#160;From my experience this is much different then the Ariba cXML spec, which provides a spec and the vendors like Ariba &amp;#160;have their own security requirements.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It really depends on how much integration is happening with the Punchout Application. &amp;#160;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;There are two sides to this, the purchaser and the supplier. &amp;#160;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Either one should use all Requests in SSL (HTTPS). &amp;#160; &amp;#160;It may not be required on the other end but, it is good practice. &amp;#160; &amp;#160;&amp;#160;If you are the application submitting the request you will need to implement an Oracle Wallet and import the destination sites SSL Certificate. &amp;#160; Ariba and Sciquest will both require it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Using the DB may seem like an easy way to implement but, I would start with mapping out all of the Use Cases with integration points. &amp;#160;Is this one REQUEST/RESPONSE and the Use Case is done or for a user to complete a Use Case are there many interactions to complete?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you have several interactions the 10g database and XML parsers are not the best for consuming web services. &amp;#160;Especially when compared to the parsers in java or .Net. &amp;#160; Things like special characters in your data can through off the whole transaction. &amp;#160;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you would like to discuss further let me know.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;-Garrett&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;On May 15, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Karen Boudreau wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br class=&quot;Apple-interchange-newline&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: separate; font-family: Calibri; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; &quot;&gt;&lt;div lang=&quot;EN-US&quot; link=&quot;blue&quot; vlink=&quot;purple&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font: normal normal normal 0.8em/1.6em Helvetica, Verdana, Sans-serif; &quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;(Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself, is located at the end of this message.)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;WordSection1&quot; style=&quot;page: WordSection1; &quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;What is the safest and simplest way to send an HTTP(S) REQUEST/RESPONSE to an external (internet) url initiated from a user running an Oracle 10G Forms and Reports application (currently running on a 10g operational database)?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;Is there a good article or whitepaper that explains how to do this simple process using predominately Oracle components? I am tempted to use utl_http because it may be quick to implement, however, the internet research I have done leads me to believe &amp;#160;the actual HTTPS REQUEST transaction should be initiated through a web service (or script) running outside the database (and database server)&amp;#160; and not launched directly from the operational database (like utl_http allows).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;I am looking for a best practice secure design using predominantly Oracle components without additional scripting modules (such as PHP or ASP), if possible.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;Background:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;I am tasked with adding a cXML Punchout feature to a financial system’s procurement module. The cXML standards indicate the cXML message is transported to an external supplier’s website using an HTTP(S) REQUEST/RESPONSE. The financial system is built with 10g Oracle Forms and Reports running on an Oracle 10g database.&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; &quot;&gt;My experience is with Oracle Forms/Reports and pl/sql.&amp;#160; I do not have experience with developing web applications using other technologies. 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    <title>[techies] cxml Punchout Application - https request/response </title>
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&lt;div class=&quot;WordSection1&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;What is the safest and simplest way to send an HTTP(S) REQUEST/RESPONSE to an external (internet) url initiated from a user running an Oracle 10G Forms and Reports application (currently running on a 10g operational database)?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Is there a good article or whitepaper that explains how to do this simple process using predominately Oracle components? I am tempted to use utl_http because it may be quick to implement, however, the internet research I have done leads me to believe &amp;#160;the actual HTTPS REQUEST transaction should be initiated through a web service (or script) running outside the database (and database server)&amp;#160; and not launched directly from the operational database (like utl_http allows). &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt; I am looking for a best practice secure design using predominantly Oracle components without additional scripting modules (such as PHP or ASP), if possible.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Background:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;I am tasked with adding a cXML Punchout feature to a financial system&amp;#8217;s procurement module. The cXML standards indicate the cXML message is transported to an external supplier&amp;#8217;s website using an HTTP(S) REQUEST/RESPONSE. The financial system is built with 10g Oracle Forms and Reports running on an Oracle 10g database.&amp;#160; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;My experience is with Oracle Forms/Reports and pl/sql.&amp;#160; I do not have experience with developing web applications using other technologies. I have spent numerous hours reviewing articles on utl_http, mod_plsql, xmldb, consuming web services, etc and am not sure which components I really should be using for this simple functionality.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Any help is greatly appreciated.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Regards,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Karen Boudreau&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;




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    <title>[techies] How to decode value of timestamp bind variable in sql monitoring report?</title>
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&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Hi All,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We run sql monitoring reports on some of our longer 
running queries. We use the timestamp datatype in our 
database(11.2.0.2). In our sql monitoring reports we see bind variables 
captured for the timestamp datatype that we are unsure how to decode 
into a human readable form. Here are some example bind variables from 
one of our reports.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Global Information&lt;br&gt;Status&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; DONE (ALL ROWS)&lt;br&gt;Instance ID&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 1&lt;br&gt;Session&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; PROD (1419:24949)&lt;br&gt;SQL ID&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 1jbca4bpjth3t&lt;br&gt;SQL Execution ID&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 16777216&lt;br&gt;Execution Started&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 03/20/2013 10:37:06&lt;br&gt;First Refresh Time&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 03/20/2013 10:37:20&lt;br&gt;Last Refresh Time&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 03/20/2013 10:51:14&lt;br&gt;Duration&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 848s&lt;br&gt;Program&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; JDBC Thin Client&lt;br&gt;Fetch Calls&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; :&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 1&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Binds&lt;br&gt;Name&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Position&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Type&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Value&lt;br&gt;:1&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 1&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; NUMBER&amp;#160; 384959789&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;:2&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 2&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; TIMESTAMP&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 78700302010101&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;:3&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 3&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; NUMBER&amp;#160; 3019&lt;br&gt;:4&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 4&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; NUMBER&amp;#160; 0&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone has insight on how to decode the value listed for the timestamp bind variable listed above it would be appreciated. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Craig Jackson&lt;br&gt;Rally Software 		 	   		  &lt;/div&gt;




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    <title>[techies] Fwd: Fwd: Jonathan Lewis  - all new &#34;Oracle Mechanisms&#34; Seminar &#38; Webinar - April 11 &#38; 12, 2013</title>
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    Jonathan is a frequent and extremely valuable contributor to RMOUG,
    as well as being a certified &quot;individual of extraordinary abilities
    and achievement&quot; (a.k.a. holder of an O-1 visa) in the eyes of the
    US Department of Homeland Security as well.&amp;#160; This is an opportunity
    to learn from someone who has painstakingly puzzled it all out,
    carefully proven it out, and has an extraordinary ability to explain
    what he has found.&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;div class=&quot;moz-forward-container&quot;&gt; &lt;br&gt;
      I'm not a spokesperson, not a sales person, not compensated in any
      way; just someone who has benefited from Jonathan's expertise and
      who is very happy to share this.&lt;br&gt;
      &lt;br&gt;
      Please see below if interested...&lt;br&gt;
      &lt;div class=&quot;moz-forward-container&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
        &lt;br&gt;
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              &lt;th align=&quot;RIGHT&quot; nowrap=&quot;nowrap&quot; valign=&quot;BASELINE&quot;&gt;Subject:

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              &lt;td&gt;Jonathan Lewis - all new &quot;Oracle Mechanisms&quot; Seminar
                &amp;#38; Webinar - April 11 &amp;#38; 12, 2013&lt;/td&gt;
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              &lt;th align=&quot;RIGHT&quot; nowrap=&quot;nowrap&quot; valign=&quot;BASELINE&quot;&gt;Date:
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              &lt;td&gt;Thu, 7 Mar 2013 07:37:38 -0600&lt;/td&gt;
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              &lt;th align=&quot;RIGHT&quot; nowrap=&quot;nowrap&quot; valign=&quot;BASELINE&quot;&gt;From:
              &lt;/th&gt;
              &lt;td&gt;John Goodhue &lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; class=&quot;moz-txt-link-rfc2396E&quot; href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#x6A;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x68;&amp;#110;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#111;&amp;#x64;&amp;#104;&amp;#x75;&amp;#101;&amp;#x40;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x73;&amp;#x74;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#101;&amp;#x74;&quot;&gt;&amp;#60;&amp;#x6A;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x68;&amp;#110;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#111;&amp;#x64;&amp;#104;&amp;#x75;&amp;#101;&amp;#x40;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x73;&amp;#x74;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#101;&amp;#x74;&amp;#62;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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              &lt;th align=&quot;RIGHT&quot; nowrap=&quot;nowrap&quot; valign=&quot;BASELINE&quot;&gt;To: &lt;/th&gt;
              &lt;td&gt;'Tim Gorman' &lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; class=&quot;moz-txt-link-rfc2396E&quot; href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#x54;&amp;#x69;&amp;#109;&amp;#x40;&amp;#69;&amp;#x76;&amp;#68;&amp;#x42;&amp;#84;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#67;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;&quot;&gt;&amp;#60;&amp;#x54;&amp;#x69;&amp;#109;&amp;#x40;&amp;#69;&amp;#x76;&amp;#68;&amp;#x42;&amp;#84;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#67;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;&amp;#62;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                learn from the Best!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                Proud to Present Jonathan Lewis&amp;#8217;s Newest Two-Day Seminar
                &amp;#38; Webinar:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
          &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin-bottom:5.0pt;text-align:center&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:13.0pt;color:#CC0000&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Oracle
                Mechanisms&amp;#8221;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                Friday, April 11 &amp;#38; 12, 2013 (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;color:#0000C8&quot;&gt;:00 a.m. to 4:00
                p.m. Central Time)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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          &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;The seminar will be held at &lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; href=&quot;http://www.benchmarklearning.com/ContactUs/Directions/Edina.aspx&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:windowtext&quot;&gt;Benchmark Learning&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;u&gt;
            &lt;/u&gt;in Minneapolis, MN (60 seats). The webinar will be a
            live &lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; href=&quot;http://www.blackboard.com/platforms/collaborate/overview.aspx&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:windowtext&quot;&gt;Blackboard Collaborate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
            of the seminar (25 attendees).&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
          &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;The webinar&amp;#8217;s audio will be VoIP (no
            dial-in).&amp;#160; You will see and hear Jonathan present the same
            screens seminar attendees are viewing, from the convenience
            of your home or office&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;and

            save you time and&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;money.&amp;#160;

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          &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cost:&amp;#160; $600 &amp;#160;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;(Discounts apply
              for multiple attendees. Please call or email)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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          &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;This value price includes:&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; A
            free copy of your choice of Jonathan&amp;#8217;s &amp;#160;&amp;#8220;&lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Oracle-Core-Essential-Internals-Developers/dp/1430239549/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;#38;ie=UTF8&amp;#38;qid=1361110678&amp;#38;sr=1-1&amp;#38;keywords=jonathan+lewis+oracle&quot;&gt;Oracle

              Core: Essential Internals for DBAs and Developers&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#8221; &lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;in hardcover or &lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Oracle-Core-Essential-Developers-ebook/dp/B006C9EN1U/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&amp;#38;ie=UTF8&amp;#38;qid=1362497093&amp;#38;sr=1-1&amp;#38;keywords=jonathan+lewis&quot;&gt;Kindle&lt;/a&gt;
            &lt;/span&gt;(&amp;#8220;Oracle Mechanisms&amp;#8221; is based on this) or &amp;#8220;&lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Cost-Based-Oracle-Fundamentals-Experts-Voice/dp/1590596366/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;#38;ie=UTF8&amp;#38;qid=1361110678&amp;#38;sr=1-2&amp;#38;keywords=jonathan+lewis+oracle&quot;&gt;Cost

              Based Oracle Fundamentals&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#8221;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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            &lt;/span&gt;All seminar &amp;#38; webinar attendees will have free
            unlimited playback of the webinar for 30 days.&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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            Click &lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; href=&quot;http://www.eventbrite.com/event/5612745874&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;
            to register&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
          &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Seminar: Click &lt;a moz-do-not-send=&quot;true&quot; href=&quot;http://www.eventbrite.com/event/5617911324&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;
            to register&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:center&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                        New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Oracle
                        Mechanisms &amp;#8211; Agenda&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;This course is
                      new for 2013 and is, in effect,&amp;#160;a walk through the
                      book Oracle Core. The two day event covers the
                      core mechanisms of how the central portion of the
                      basic database engine works. There are&amp;#160;eight
                      chapters in the book, which&amp;#160;are reflected in the
                      eight topic headings listed below; and the
                      material presented in the course of the two days
                      will follow this pattern.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Unlike previous
                      courses, however,&amp;#160;&amp;#160;which had a fixed timetable and
                      were strictly set to four sessions of equal length
                      each day, this course will have a flexible
                      timetable where the number and duration of pauses
                      will depend on the amount of interaction from the
                      attendees. There will, however, be a lunch break
                      in the middle of the day, and at least one break
                      mid-morning and another mid-afternoon. Throughout
                      the sessions we will always try to focus on the
                      questions &amp;#8211; how does knowing this information help
                      me either make the application more efficient, or
                      reduce the amount of maintenance work I need to
                      do.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Topic 1&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td style=&quot;width:90.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;90%&quot;&gt;
                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                        New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Overview.&lt;br&gt;
                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;A brief
                      introduction to the principal files used in an
                      Oracle database, the key processes and what they
                      do with those file, and the way that Oracle uses
                      memory.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                  .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
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              &lt;tr&gt;
                &lt;td style=&quot;width:9.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;9%&quot;&gt;
                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Topic 2&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td style=&quot;width:90.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;90%&quot;&gt;
                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                        New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Redo and Undo&lt;br&gt;
                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;The mechanisms
                      that Oracle uses to change data, and reverse out
                      change. Redo change vectors and undo records. How
                      the redo and undo mechanisms allow Oracle to
                      increase scalability and reduce blocking. Why we
                      have redo log files but undo tablespaces. The
                      three functions of undo.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
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                  .75pt .75pt&quot; nowrap=&quot;nowrap&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
              &lt;/tr&gt;
              &lt;tr&gt;
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                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Topic 3&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td style=&quot;width:90.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;90%&quot;&gt;
                  &lt;p class=&quot;awbasetext&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                        New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Transactions
                        and Consistency&lt;br&gt;
                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Why writers
                      don&amp;#8217;t block readers. Internals of the Undo Segment
                      &amp;#8211; undo segment headers and the transaction table.
                      Chaining undo records in undo blocks. Data segment
                      headers and the Interested Transaction List.
                      Commits and the options for cleanout. Two forms of
                      Oracle error ORA-01555. The special handling for
                      LOBs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
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                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Topic 4&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                        New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Latches
                        Mutexes and Locks&lt;br&gt;
                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Why locks are
                      different from latches and mutexes. Methods of
                      using memory: arrays, pointers, hash tables and
                      linked lists. Shared memory and the threat of lost
                      updates. How latches and mutexes protect memory
                      locations from concurrent overwrites. An example
                      of the interaction of latches hash tables, and
                      linked lists &amp;#8211; the library cache. Locks as
                      mechanisms for sharing and queueing. How queueing
                      mechanisms lead to deadlocks. Internal structures
                      used for locks. Some common lock types. A graphic
                      explanation of v$lock. How Oracle also uses locks
                      in the library cache.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
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                &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;width:100.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt
                  .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
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                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Topic 5&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td style=&quot;width:90.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;90%&quot;&gt;
                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                        New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;The Buffer
                        Cache&lt;br&gt;
                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Layers of
                      memory structures. Granules and buffer pools,
                      buffers and buffer headers. Working data sets and
                      the database writer(s). Buffer re-use and the
                      LRU/Touch Count algorithm. Finding the right
                      buffer &amp;#8211; the cache buffers chains. Latching and
                      pinning to protect shared memory. Reading data
                      blocks into the buffer, and the creation and use
                      of read consistent copies of blocks..&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                  .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
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                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Topic 6&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                        New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Writing and
                        Recovery&lt;br&gt;
                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;The main write
                      I/O activity. How DBWR and LGWR work individually,
                      and how they co-operate. The various types of
                      checkpoints and how they anticipate recovery
                      scenarios and minimize the work needed to recover.
                      Ancillary I/O activity &amp;#8211; archiving, flashback
                      logging, and change tracking &amp;#8211; and how the range
                      of recovery options affects the ongoing I/O load.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                  .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
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                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Topic 7&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
                &lt;/td&gt;
                &lt;td style=&quot;width:90.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt&quot; width=&quot;90%&quot;&gt;
                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                        New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Parsing and
                        Optimising&lt;br&gt;
                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Note
                      particularly that this chapter is not about the
                      arithmetic of the cost-based optimizer, it is
                      about the various structures in the shared memory
                      that are manipulated due to a parse call. How much
                      does Oracle need to know to &amp;#8220;understand&amp;#8221; an SQL
                      statement, and how is this information handled.&lt;br&gt;
                      What does the shared pool look like, and how does
                      Oracle deal with loading and accessing all the
                      pieces of information it needs to parse and
                      optimize a statement. We start with memory
                      granules to build the shared pool then consider
                      the finer levels of granularity &amp;#8211; the sub-pools
                      and &amp;#8220;durations&amp;#8221;.&lt;br&gt;
                      How does the dictionary cache work, how does the
                      library cache work &amp;#8211; and what is a cursor. What is
                      the difference between a parent cursor and a child
                      cursor. What is the difference between an &amp;#8220;open&amp;#8221;
                      cursor, and a &amp;#8220;pinned&amp;#8221; cursor.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;width:100.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt
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                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Topic 8&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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                  &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
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                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Times
                      New Roman&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;A very brief
                      look at how Oracle addresses the issues raised
                      when multiple machines are all trying to share the
                      same database. How can we share objects safely
                      when the &amp;#8220;shared memory&amp;#8221; is distributed across
                      several machines. The global resource directory;
                      master resources and shadow resources and their
                      role in crash recovery. A couple of special cases
                      to consider when designing for RAC.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div class=&quot;WordSection1&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Calibri&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;I don’t use SQL Developer much but have been using it with JDK 7 for a while and even though it’s not supported, I haven’t seen major problems.  However, I’m only doing basic stuff in there so it’s not a full-fledged test.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Calibri&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Calibri&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Eric is spot on with how SQL Developer works and the ability to change which JRE is used.  Ron’s comments are interesting and IMHO the co-worker is probably better sticking with 6 (since it’s supported) despite the message from Oracle. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Calibri&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Calibri&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Brad&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Calibri&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;720.272.9804    &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Calibri&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt; RONALD BICH Owner [mailto:&amp;#114;&amp;#111;&amp;#110;&amp;#97;&amp;#108;&amp;#100;&amp;#x6A;&amp;#98;&amp;#x69;&amp;#99;&amp;#x68;&amp;#64;&amp;#113;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;] &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:10 PM&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; techies&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; [techies] RE: Fwd: Java 6 Retirement&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;line-height:19.2pt&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Helvetica&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;(Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself, is located at the end of this message.) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Helvetica&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;I am currently working on this and JDK 1.7 does not work with Forms/Reports 10g.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; You have to uninstall JDK 1.7 and reinstall JDK 1.6 to get either IE 9 or Mozilla 19 to run Forms/Reports 10g.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; At least on my laptop that is what I had to do, which is&amp;#160;an HP DV7 Notebook 64bit machine running Window 7 premier.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is supposed to be a fix working with the EBS running 10g Forms/Reports but I haven't gotten that tested yet.&amp;#160; Can let anyone know my results if they're interested, just reply to let me know and I will post it here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ron&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message -----&lt;br&gt;From: Eric Sorrin &amp;#60;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#69;&amp;#x72;&amp;#105;&amp;#99;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#83;&amp;#111;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x69;&amp;#110;&amp;#64;&amp;#99;&amp;#104;&amp;#x69;&amp;#108;&amp;#100;&amp;#114;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#115;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#108;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x72;&amp;#97;&amp;#100;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#46;&amp;#111;&amp;#114;&amp;#x67;&quot;&gt;&amp;#69;&amp;#x72;&amp;#105;&amp;#99;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#83;&amp;#111;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x69;&amp;#110;&amp;#64;&amp;#99;&amp;#104;&amp;#x69;&amp;#108;&amp;#100;&amp;#114;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#115;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#108;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x72;&amp;#97;&amp;#100;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#46;&amp;#111;&amp;#114;&amp;#x67;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;To: techies &amp;#60;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#x74;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x63;&amp;#104;&amp;#x69;&amp;#101;&amp;#x73;&amp;#x40;&amp;#x72;&amp;#109;&amp;#111;&amp;#117;&amp;#x67;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x72;&amp;#103;&quot;&gt;&amp;#x74;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x63;&amp;#104;&amp;#x69;&amp;#101;&amp;#x73;&amp;#x40;&amp;#x72;&amp;#109;&amp;#111;&amp;#117;&amp;#x67;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x72;&amp;#103;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;Sent: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:21:29 -0500 (EST)&lt;br&gt;Subject: [techies] RE: Fwd: Java 6 Retirement&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;line-height:19.2pt&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Helvetica&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Helvetica&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;(Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Helvetica&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;is located at the end of this message.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Helvetica&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Helvetica&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Greg,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;I think this is just a reference to Java 6 in general.&amp;#160; If you are using the Java&amp;#160; JRE &amp;#160;that comes with the Oracle 11 client you will be fine unless you encounter a bug.&amp;#160; Not sure about the compatibility of SqlDeveloper&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;with Java 7, If that is what you are asking, &amp;#160;my guess is that it would work just fine as they keep deprecated classes around for some time.&amp;#160; I’ m sure that Oracle will either begin to package future releases with a newer Java, or perhaps not.&amp;#160; They are usually&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;way behind.&amp;#160; BTW – in troubleshooting the issue of SqlDeveloper asking the first time where Java is on your machine (So that I could automate client pushes) I found the place that they store the path to the JRE.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;I recall it being in Sqldeveloper.conf.&amp;#160; So,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you could have multiple versions of Java on the machine and change which version &amp;#160;SqlDeveloper looks uses.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Hope that helps a little.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Eric&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt; 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Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:21 PM&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;To:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; techies&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Subject:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; [techies] Fwd: Java 6 Retirement&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:19.2pt&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;(Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself, is located at the end of this message.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;I got this question from a co-worker ... .anyone have any thoughts on this?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;text-align:center&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;hr size=&quot;2&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#34;Greg Kainz&amp;#34; &amp;#60;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#x67;&amp;#x72;&amp;#101;&amp;#x67;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6B;&amp;#97;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x7A;&amp;#x40;&amp;#x73;&amp;#112;&amp;#x61;&amp;#116;&amp;#105;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#102;&amp;#111;&amp;#46;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#109;&quot;&gt;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x72;&amp;#101;&amp;#x67;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6B;&amp;#97;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x7A;&amp;#x40;&amp;#x73;&amp;#112;&amp;#x61;&amp;#116;&amp;#105;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#102;&amp;#111;&amp;#46;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#109;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;To: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#x67;&amp;#x72;&amp;#101;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x6B;&amp;#x61;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x7A;&amp;#64;&amp;#99;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x6D;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x61;&amp;#115;&amp;#116;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x65;&amp;#116;&quot;&gt;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x72;&amp;#101;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x6B;&amp;#x61;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x7A;&amp;#64;&amp;#99;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x6D;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x61;&amp;#115;&amp;#116;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x65;&amp;#116;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Sent: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:57:46 AM&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Subject: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;FW: Java 6 Retirement&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt; Jeff Laing&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Sent:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:53 PM&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;To:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; SQLADVICE&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Cc:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Chris Smith; Ben Morgan&lt;br&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Subject:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Java 6 Retirement&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;Does anyone have any idea what this announcement from Oracle:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/6u43-relnotes-1915290.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/6u43-relnotes-1915290.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.0pt;background:white&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:red&quot;&gt;This release is the last of publicly available JDK 6 Updates&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Oracle recommends that users migrate to JDK 7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;in order to continue receiving public updates and security enhancements. 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    <title>[techies] RE: Fwd: Java 6 Retirement</title>
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    <published>2013-03-07T14:20:03Z</published>
    <updated>2013-03-07T14:20:03Z</updated>
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Calibri&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Hi Ron,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Calibri&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Lots of ‘gotchas’ on all these new versions and their incompatibilities, aren’t there?&amp;#160;&amp;#160; We have clients still running IE6 machines just so they can continue
 to run 10g webforms.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:11 PM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; techies&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; [techies] RE: Fwd: Java 6 Retirement&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;I am currently working on this and JDK 1.7 does not work with Forms/Reports 10g.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; You have to uninstall JDK 1.7 and reinstall JDK 1.6 to get either IE 9 or Mozilla 19 to run Forms/Reports 10g.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; At least on my
 laptop that is what I had to do, which is&amp;#160;an HP DV7 Notebook 64bit machine running Window 7 premier.&lt;br&gt;
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There is supposed to be a fix working with the EBS running 10g Forms/Reports but I haven't gotten that tested yet.&amp;#160; Can let anyone know my results if they're interested, just reply to let me know and I will post it here.&lt;br&gt;
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From: Eric Sorrin &amp;#60;&amp;#69;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#83;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#64;&amp;#99;&amp;#104;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#100;&amp;#x72;&amp;#101;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#115;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#114;&amp;#97;&amp;#x64;&amp;#111;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#111;&amp;#114;&amp;#x67;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;
To: techies &amp;#60;&amp;#116;&amp;#101;&amp;#99;&amp;#x68;&amp;#105;&amp;#101;&amp;#x73;&amp;#64;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x6D;&amp;#111;&amp;#x75;&amp;#103;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#114;&amp;#x67;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;
Sent: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:21:29 -0500 (EST)&lt;br&gt;
Subject: [techies] RE: Fwd: Java 6 Retirement&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Helvetica&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;(Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself,
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Greg,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;I think this is just a reference to Java 6 in general.&amp;#160; If you are using the Java&amp;#160; JRE &amp;#160;that comes with the Oracle 11 client you will be fine unless
 you encounter a bug.&amp;#160; Not sure about the compatibility of SqlDeveloper&lt;br&gt;
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with Java 7, If that is what you are asking, &amp;#160;my guess is that it would work just fine as they keep deprecated classes around for some time.&amp;#160; I’ m sure that Oracle will either begin to package future releases with a newer Java, or perhaps not.&amp;#160; They are usually&lt;br&gt;
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way behind.&amp;#160; BTW – in troubleshooting the issue of SqlDeveloper asking the first time where Java is on your machine (So that I could automate client pushes) I found the place that they store the path to the JRE.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;I recall it being in Sqldeveloper.conf.&amp;#160; So,&lt;br&gt;
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you could have multiple versions of Java on the machine and change which version &amp;#160;SqlDeveloper looks uses.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Hope that helps a little.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Eric&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 &amp;#103;&amp;#x72;&amp;#101;&amp;#x67;&amp;#107;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#122;&amp;#x40;&amp;#99;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#109;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x61;&amp;#115;&amp;#x74;&amp;#46;&amp;#110;&amp;#101;&amp;#x74; [mailto:&amp;#103;&amp;#x72;&amp;#101;&amp;#x67;&amp;#107;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#122;&amp;#x40;&amp;#99;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#109;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x61;&amp;#115;&amp;#x74;&amp;#46;&amp;#110;&amp;#101;&amp;#x74;]&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Sent:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:21 PM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;To:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; techies&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Subject:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; [techies] Fwd: Java 6 Retirement&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:19.2pt&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;(Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself, is located at the end of this message.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;I got this question from a co-worker ... .anyone have any thoughts on this?&lt;br&gt;
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Thanks!&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;To: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;#103;&amp;#x72;&amp;#101;&amp;#x67;&amp;#107;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#122;&amp;#x40;&amp;#99;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#109;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x61;&amp;#115;&amp;#x74;&amp;#46;&amp;#110;&amp;#101;&amp;#x74;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Sent: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:57:46 AM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Subject: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;FW: Java 6 Retirement&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;
 Jeff Laing&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Sent:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:53 PM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;To:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; SQLADVICE&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Cc:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Chris Smith; Ben Morgan&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Subject:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Java 6 Retirement&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;Does anyone have any idea what this announcement from Oracle:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/6u43-relnotes-1915290.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/6u43-relnotes-1915290.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.0pt;background:white&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:red&quot;&gt;This release is the last of publicly available JDK 6 Updates&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Oracle recommends that users migrate to JDK 7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;in order to continue receiving public updates and security enhancements. All JDK 6 releases up to and including 6u43 will be moved to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/archive-139210.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;Java&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;Archive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, where they will remain available but will not receive updates. For users who require continued access to JDK 6 updates, long term support is available through the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/java/standard-edition/support/overview/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;Java&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;SE Support&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;program.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;will have on SQL Developer?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;Jeff Laing &amp;#60;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#106;&amp;#101;&amp;#x66;&amp;#102;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#108;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x69;&amp;#110;&amp;#103;&amp;#x40;&amp;#115;&amp;#x70;&amp;#97;&amp;#116;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x61;&amp;#108;&amp;#105;&amp;#110;&amp;#102;&amp;#111;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#109;%20&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&amp;#106;&amp;#101;&amp;#x66;&amp;#102;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#108;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x69;&amp;#110;&amp;#103;&amp;#x40;&amp;#115;&amp;#x70;&amp;#97;&amp;#116;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x61;&amp;#108;&amp;#105;&amp;#110;&amp;#102;&amp;#111;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#109;&lt;br&gt;
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    <title>[techies] RE: Fwd: Java 6 Retirement</title>
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I am currently working on this and JDK 1.7 does not work with Forms/Reports 10g.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; You have to uninstall JDK 1.7 and reinstall JDK 1.6 to get either IE 9 or Mozilla 19 to run Forms/Reports 10g.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; At least on my laptop that is what I had to do, which is&amp;#160;an HP DV7 Notebook 64bit machine running Window 7 premier.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is supposed to be a fix working with the EBS running 10g Forms/Reports but I haven't gotten that tested yet.&amp;#160; Can let anyone know my results if they're interested, just reply to let me know and I will post it here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ron&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message -----&lt;br&gt;From: Eric Sorrin &amp;#60;&amp;#x45;&amp;#114;&amp;#x69;&amp;#99;&amp;#46;&amp;#83;&amp;#111;&amp;#114;&amp;#x72;&amp;#105;&amp;#110;&amp;#x40;&amp;#99;&amp;#104;&amp;#105;&amp;#108;&amp;#x64;&amp;#114;&amp;#101;&amp;#110;&amp;#x73;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#108;&amp;#111;&amp;#x72;&amp;#97;&amp;#100;&amp;#111;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#114;&amp;#103;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;To: techies &amp;#60;&amp;#116;&amp;#x65;&amp;#99;&amp;#x68;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x73;&amp;#64;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x6D;&amp;#111;&amp;#x75;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#114;&amp;#103;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;Sent: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:21:29 -0500 (EST)&lt;br&gt;Subject: [techies] RE: Fwd: Java 6 Retirement&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: #1f497d&quot;&gt;Greg,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: #1f497d&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: #1f497d&quot;&gt;I think this is just a reference to Java 6 in general.&amp;#160; If you are using the Java&amp;#160; JRE &amp;#160;that comes with the Oracle 11 client you will be fine unless you encounter a bug.&amp;#160; Not sure about the compatibility of SqlDeveloper&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;with Java 7, If that is what you are asking, &amp;#160;my guess is that it would work just fine as they keep deprecated classes around for some time.&amp;#160; I’ m sure that Oracle will either begin to package future releases with a newer Java, or perhaps not.&amp;#160; They are usually&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;way behind.&amp;#160; BTW – in troubleshooting the issue of SqlDeveloper asking the first time where Java is on your machine (So that I could automate client pushes) I found the place that they store the path to the JRE.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;I recall it being in Sqldeveloper.conf.&amp;#160; So,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you could have multiple versions of Java on the machine and change which version &amp;#160;SqlDeveloper looks uses.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: #1f497d&quot;&gt;Hope that helps a little.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: #1f497d&quot;&gt;Eric&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;LINE-HEIGHT: 19.2pt&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;FONT-FAMILY: &amp;#60;br&amp;#62;&amp;#60;br&amp;#62;&amp;#39;Helvetica&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt&quot;&gt;(Mailing list information, including how to remove yourself, is located at the end of this message.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;FONT-FAMILY: &amp;#39;Helvetica&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;; FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; br: &amp;#39;Arial&amp;#39;,&amp;#39;sans-serif&amp;#39;&quot;&gt;I got this question from a co-worker ... .anyone have any thoughts on this?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: black&quot; lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;Does anyone have any idea what this announcement from Oracle:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: black&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: black&quot; lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;will have on SQL Developer?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: black&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt&quot; lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;		 -- J Gall. &quot;Systemantics: How systems work and how they fail&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;COLOR: black&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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    <title>[techies] RE: Fwd: Java 6 Retirement</title>
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Greg,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;I think this is just a reference to Java 6 in general.&amp;#160; If you are using the Java&amp;#160; JRE &amp;#160;that comes with the Oracle 11 client you will be fine unless you encounter a bug.&amp;#160; Not sure about the compatibility of SqlDeveloper
 with Java 7, If that is what you are asking, &amp;#160;my guess is that it would work just fine as they keep deprecated classes around for some time.&amp;#160; I’ m sure that Oracle will either begin to package future releases with a newer Java, or perhaps not.&amp;#160; They are usually
 way behind.&amp;#160; BTW – in troubleshooting the issue of SqlDeveloper asking the first time where Java is on your machine (So that I could automate client pushes) I found the place that they store the path to the JRE.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;I recall it being in Sqldeveloper.conf.&amp;#160; So,
 you could have multiple versions of Java on the machine and change which version &amp;#160;SqlDeveloper looks uses.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Hope that helps a little.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;Eric&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:21 PM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; techies&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; [techies] Fwd: Java 6 Retirement&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;I got this question from a co-worker ... .anyone have any thoughts on this?&lt;br&gt;
Thanks!&lt;br&gt;
Greg&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;
color:black&quot;&gt;From:
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;
color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#34;Greg Kainz&amp;#34; &amp;#60;&amp;#103;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#107;&amp;#97;&amp;#105;&amp;#110;&amp;#122;&amp;#x40;&amp;#x73;&amp;#112;&amp;#x61;&amp;#116;&amp;#105;&amp;#97;&amp;#108;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x66;&amp;#111;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#109;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To: &lt;/b&gt;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x65;&amp;#103;&amp;#x6B;&amp;#x61;&amp;#105;&amp;#110;&amp;#x7A;&amp;#x40;&amp;#99;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#109;&amp;#99;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x73;&amp;#116;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#101;&amp;#x74;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Sent: &lt;/b&gt;Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:57:46 AM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject: &lt;/b&gt;FW: Java 6 Retirement&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;
&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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color:black&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;
color:black&quot;&gt; Jeff Laing
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&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:53 PM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; SQLADVICE&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Cc:&lt;/b&gt; Chris Smith; Ben Morgan&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; Java 6 Retirement&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;Does anyone have any idea what this announcement from Oracle:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/6u43-relnotes-1915290.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/6u43-relnotes-1915290.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:red&quot;&gt;This release is the last of publicly available JDK 6 Updates&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;.
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;
color:red&quot;&gt;Oracle recommends that users migrate to JDK 7
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot;&gt;in order to continue receiving public updates and security enhancements. All JDK 6 releases up to and including 6u43 will be moved to&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/archive-139210.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;Java
 Archive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, where they will remain available but will not receive updates. For users who require continued access to JDK 6 updates, long term support is available through the&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/java/standard-edition/support/overview/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;Java
 SE Support&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;program.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;will have on SQL Developer?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;Jeff Laing &amp;#60;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#x6A;&amp;#101;&amp;#102;&amp;#x66;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#97;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x67;&amp;#64;&amp;#x73;&amp;#x70;&amp;#x61;&amp;#116;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#105;&amp;#110;&amp;#102;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x6D;%20&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&amp;#x6A;&amp;#101;&amp;#102;&amp;#x66;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#97;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x67;&amp;#64;&amp;#x73;&amp;#x70;&amp;#x61;&amp;#116;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#105;&amp;#110;&amp;#102;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x6D;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot; style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;color:black&quot;&gt;A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work.&amp;#160; You have to start over, beginning with a working simple system.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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    <title>[techies] Fwd: Java 6 Retirement</title>
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&lt;div style=&quot;font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000&quot;&gt;I got this question from a co-worker ... .anyone have any thoughts on this?&lt;br&gt;Thanks!&lt;br&gt;Greg&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr id=&quot;zwchr&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;From: &lt;/b&gt;&quot;Greg Kainz&quot; &amp;#60;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x72;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x6B;&amp;#97;&amp;#x69;&amp;#110;&amp;#122;&amp;#x40;&amp;#115;&amp;#x70;&amp;#97;&amp;#116;&amp;#x69;&amp;#97;&amp;#108;&amp;#x69;&amp;#110;&amp;#102;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#109;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;To: &lt;/b&gt;&amp;#103;&amp;#x72;&amp;#101;&amp;#103;&amp;#x6B;&amp;#97;&amp;#105;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#122;&amp;#x40;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;&amp;#99;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x73;&amp;#116;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#110;&amp;#x65;&amp;#116;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sent: &lt;/b&gt;Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:57:46 AM&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Subject: &lt;/b&gt;FW: Java 6 Retirement&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;!--[if !mso]&gt;&lt;style&gt;v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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&lt;/o:shapelayout&gt;&lt;/xml&gt;&lt;![endif]--&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;WordSection1&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F497D&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Tahoma&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt; Jeff Laing &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:53 PM&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; SQLADVICE&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cc:&lt;/b&gt; Chris Smith; Ben Morgan&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; Java 6 Retirement&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;Does anyone have any idea what this announcement from Oracle:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/6u43-relnotes-1915290.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/6u43-relnotes-1915290.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:12.0pt;background:white&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:red&quot; lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;This release is the last of publicly available JDK 6 Updates&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot; lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:red&quot; lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;Oracle recommends that users migrate to JDK 7 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:black&quot; lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;in order to continue receiving public updates and security enhancements. All JDK 6 releases up to and including 6u43 will be moved to&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/archive-139210.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;Java Archive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, where they will remain available but will not receive updates. For users who require continued access to JDK 6 updates, long term support is available through the&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/java/standard-edition/support/overview/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1F4F82&quot;&gt;Java SE Support&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;program.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;will have on SQL Developer?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;Jeff Laing &amp;#60;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#106;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x66;&amp;#x66;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#97;&amp;#x69;&amp;#110;&amp;#103;&amp;#x40;&amp;#115;&amp;#112;&amp;#x61;&amp;#116;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#105;&amp;#110;&amp;#x66;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x63;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;%20&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&amp;#106;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x66;&amp;#x66;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#97;&amp;#x69;&amp;#110;&amp;#103;&amp;#x40;&amp;#115;&amp;#112;&amp;#x61;&amp;#116;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x61;&amp;#x6C;&amp;#105;&amp;#110;&amp;#x66;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#x63;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D; &lt;/a&gt;&amp;#62;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align:center&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;hr align=&quot;center&quot; size=&quot;2&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt&quot; lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work.&amp;#160; You have to start over, beginning with a working simple system.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:10.0pt&quot; lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; -- J Gall. &quot;Systemantics: How systems work and how they fail&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-AU&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;




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    <title>[techies] Oracle and AD</title>
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&lt;div class=&quot;Section1&quot;&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Hey folks,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;We are looking at using AD to authenticate our Oracle Windows client connections.&amp;#160; Our RDBMS platform is Red Hat.&amp;#160; I&amp;#8217;ve been talking to Oracle about this and the answer seems to be buying Directory Services Plus and using one of 4 possible
 &amp;#160;combinations of OID and OVD with a side of WebLogics as well, and purchasing Advanced Security to be able to use Kerberos.&amp;#160; Seems like a lot of convoluted stuff to do what I want, namely authentication and password management.&amp;#160; I don&amp;#8217;t even want to necessarily
 manage roles in OID or AD, and I&amp;#8217;m thinking that once I go the directory route I won&amp;#8217;t even have a choice to do roles in the DB.&amp;#160; Many &amp;#160;(non-Oracle) products seems to integrate fairly seamlessly.&amp;#160; This one is frustrating.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Does anyone have some practical experience with this or good advice?&amp;#160; I would think this is a common problem but I don&amp;#8217;t see a good solution out there.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Thanks,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Eric&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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color:#023890&quot;&gt;Eric Sorrin | Database Administrator II | Infrastructure &amp;#38; Technology Services&lt;br&gt;
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color:#023890&quot;&gt;Connect with Children's Hospital Colorado on
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font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;&quot;&gt;Twitter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&amp;#34;Arial&amp;#34;,&amp;#34;sans-serif&amp;#34;;color:navy&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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    <title>[techies] Re: Looking for Available Training</title>
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&lt;div style=&quot;font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wanted to thank Tim for the reminder on the OTN session at TD2013!&amp;#160;&amp;#160; This is a great deal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One more question for folks out there.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; I am seriously considering taking the Oracle&amp;#160;&lt;span&gt;Java SE 6 Associate Certification Value Package&lt;/span&gt; at a cost of about $1100 for the self study course which includes the following:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getCourseDesc?dc=D65321&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot;&gt;ePractice: Java Standard Edition 5 and 6, Certified Associate Exam (QUANTITY: 1)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getCourseDesc?dc=D65801&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot;&gt;Java EE Platform Overview for Managers Self-Study Course (QUANTITY: 1)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a style=&quot;TEXT-DECORATION: none&quot;&gt;OU Java, Solaris, and other Sun Technology Retake Exam eVoucher (QUANTITY: 1)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getCourseDesc?dc=D65792&quot; target=&quot;blank&quot;&gt;Fundamentals of the Java Programming Language, Java SE 6, Self-Study Course (QUANTITY: 1)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For anyone out there that has taken this certification I would appreciate your feedback.&amp;#160; Also for any hiring managers out there I would appreciate your feedback on whether or not you consider a certificate in your hiring decisions.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One last item for any Oracle employees and/or associates dealing with Oracle OTN, are you aware of any available discounts for taking certifications that I may qualify for?&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Being unemployed my funds are limited so I want to direct them towards a positive outcome and thought it wouldn't hurt to ask if there were any discounts available.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks everyone for your help, it is very much appreciated!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ron&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;From: &lt;/b&gt;&quot;RONALD BICH Owner&quot; &amp;#60;&amp;#x72;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x61;&amp;#108;&amp;#100;&amp;#x6A;&amp;#98;&amp;#105;&amp;#99;&amp;#x68;&amp;#x40;&amp;#113;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;To: &lt;/b&gt;&quot;Misc&quot; &amp;#60;&amp;#109;&amp;#105;&amp;#115;&amp;#x63;&amp;#x40;&amp;#114;&amp;#109;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#117;&amp;#103;&amp;#46;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x72;&amp;#103;&amp;#62;, &quot;Techies Mail&quot; &amp;#60;&amp;#116;&amp;#101;&amp;#99;&amp;#x68;&amp;#x69;&amp;#x65;&amp;#x73;&amp;#64;&amp;#x72;&amp;#109;&amp;#x6F;&amp;#x75;&amp;#x67;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#111;&amp;#114;&amp;#103;&amp;#62;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sent: &lt;/b&gt;Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:15:58 PM&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Subject: &lt;/b&gt;Looking for Available Training&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


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&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;5&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;I&amp;#160;am looking into adding to&amp;#160;my skills to increase my marketability on the job market as a developer.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Two areas that I&amp;#160;have&amp;#160;noticed that are&amp;#160;in demand on the job market is Java and ADF.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; So I wanted to run some questions by everyone on the RMOUG Misc and Tech&amp;#160;list to get some help from my professional peers on getting training.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Below I have&amp;#160;a couple of questions,&amp;#160;rather then polute both of these email lists with responses can you please send your responses to my email &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:&amp;#x72;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x61;&amp;#108;&amp;#100;&amp;#x6A;&amp;#98;&amp;#105;&amp;#99;&amp;#x68;&amp;#x40;&amp;#113;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&amp;#x72;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6E;&amp;#x61;&amp;#108;&amp;#100;&amp;#x6A;&amp;#98;&amp;#105;&amp;#99;&amp;#x68;&amp;#x40;&amp;#113;&amp;#x2E;&amp;#99;&amp;#111;&amp;#x6D;&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; For anyone else that may be interested in copies of the responses I get&amp;#160;you can&amp;#160;send me your email and I will forward them to you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your help.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ron&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There appear to be a lot of jobs asking for both Java and ADF experience so I am targeting training on both of these technologies.&amp;#160; However any suggestions on other technology skills that are in demand on the job market with quick training and at reasonable cost that I could obtain in the next month would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) Are there certifications available for training in both Java and ADF?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;a)&amp;#160;if so what is the associated cost and do they improve your marketability?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) Can anyone recommend where to get great training at a reasonable cost?&amp;#160; (I am currently unemployed so I hope to maximize both)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Training can be local here or online and would need to be obtainable in the next month as I hope to be employed soon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Specificly I am looking for&amp;#160;training that would&amp;#160;start at an entry level for an experienced Oracle UI/Database Developer.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Specific skills I have are&amp;#160;listed below:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;5+ years&amp;#160;in Forms, Reports, PL/SQL, TOAD, SQL&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;1 - 2 years&amp;#160;in&amp;#160;Financials, Designer, Data Warehousing, SQL Developer, Discern Visual Developer, HTML/CSS, JSP, and other misc areas&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;
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